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syrox roll up with three bottles of gel in his hair looking like fakeass bootleg avicii

    Syrox from competive Smash
    syrox roll up with three bottles of gel in his hair looking like fakeass bootleg avicii doing shiit westballz did in 2009 and now i gotta suck his dick like he's bomsoldier in 2005? hard pass 
    westballz roll up with 83 multishines looking like fakeass bootleg tas doing shiit syrox did in 2016 and now i gotta suck his dick like he's cal in 2017? hard pass 

    I was just wondering why Ganondorf is in the very middle of the tiers

      Ganondorf copypasta from GameFAQs

      Its an incredibly old and iconic competitive Melee copypasta that started from GameFAQs back in 2008. The original post questions the validity of Ganondorf in higher tier games.

      I was just wondering why Ganondorf is in the very middle of the tiers. Before I get into what I mean, allow me to first put out there that I have been playing for years, and I have watched MANY videos of the tournament masters.
      
      My brother and I found out, through years of play, literally EVERY advanced technique in the game, except the wavedash, which we stumbled upon, but wrote off as simply hilarious. I was surprised to find that all the wacky observations we have encountered and adapted are actually defined in the glossary in the sticky topic above! Three of the particularly surprising terms that I could not believe had been widely known and utilized were the Phantom Hit (I just thought I had a glitchy game) and that effect where recovering at the right time from attacks that sent you flying results in an upward boost if you jump out/air dodge/whatever early enough (I cannot remember what it was called in the sticky), and the waveland.
      
      Now, I have been using Ganondorf against my brother lately, and he cannot seem to beat me. We think we know why, and we think it puts Ganon at the top of the tiers. I will be brief. Ganondorf has his air forward. We call it 'The Punch.' It has that special hitbox like a sword, hence it goes right through anything except an attack with that same type of hitbox. It does 17% max, is relatively fast executing, has basically instant recovery on a barrier cancel, and is quite massive, killing at rather low percentages.
      
      If he misses, he can just do his A punch if the opponent tries to retaliate, or shield/roll. I am telling you, Ganondorf is a crazy meat mountain who crushes bones with many attacks doing 15+%, survives to insane damages thanks to his weight, and has ridiculous horizontal recovery (Double Jump, Ganondorf Kick Down B, ANOTHER Double Jump, ARE YOU SERIOUS, Up B).
      
      Next, check his roll. It goes like half screen. It makes him rather fast, nearly eliminating his speed problem on the ground, and a great character when it comes to the defensive game. It pretty much eliminates the need for his wavedash, which, with Ganondorf, who needs to do most of his attacking from hops, is pretty much useless already unless you are looking to smash attack. Wavesmashing, however, in my opinion, is also a bad idea, because, in the time and damage it takes you to actually land a smash, you could have just used The Punch and killed you opponent by then.
      
      Even though he has to fight mostly in the air, 3 of his 4 air attacks are pretty fast, and are quite massive. A major advantage he has is that nearly all his attacks move the opponent considerably, and can topple him from 0%, so his opponent gets little to no counterattack opportunity.
      
      The only explanation I can find for why he is low on the tiers is that no one has used him seriously. I think he really keeps up, if not tops, the top tier characters.
      
      I really do not like to simply shoot my mouth, and I am not one who thinks it right to shower a character in encomium, and never actually prove anything. Is there online for this somewhere, or is that simply wishful thinking? If not, please do not yell at me and stuff until you at least check out The Punch. Goes right through projectiles, goes right through attacks, goes right through faces. Please just give Ganondorf another shot and tell me what you thnk.
      
      Final Comment: People have a tendency to think that posts from newcomers to a board but veterans of its respective game are saying they are better than everyone else, regardles of what the post actually says. Please note that I did not say 'I am better than you' or 'Ganon is better than Fox.' I said, essentially: 'Ganon seems to be great. These are his strengths. He may top Fox. Check him out and see if you agree.' I will say, however, that I am a full master of Ganondorf.
      
      Please give Ganondorf a second look before responding so you know where I am coming from!

      I am very mad. I drove all the way to CSU to play in a tournament

        Posted by someone in the Colorado Melee Facebook group after a tournament in 2015, this has been SSBM most iconic and popular copypasta.

        I am very mad. I drove all the way to CSU to play in a tournament, get stuck in traffic and lost against this retarded ass sheik. Down threw tech chase and wouldn't stop shino stalling I really cannot think straight right now. I offered to MM him for more than $20. Nope. I thought I would have made it out of pools if I knew how to fucking buffer roll. But they didn't even give me the frames to do it. Bullshit, just straight up bullshit. Probably will never go to a tournament that gay ass sheiks enter ever again. This definitely ruined my day. 
        I am very mad. I drove all the way to CSU to play in a tournament, get stuck in traffic and lost against this retarded ass sheik. Down threw tech chase and wouldn't stop shino stalling
        I really cannot think straight right now.
        I offered to MM him for more than $20. Nope.
        I thought I would have made it out of pools if I knew how to fucking buffer roll. But they didn't even give me the frames to do it. Bullshit, just straight up bullshit.
        Probably will never go to a tournament that gay ass sheiks enter ever again. This definitely ruined my day.

        Melee is not a fighting game

          Melee is not a fighting game. You can't compare it to those other fighting games. Melee is simply a masterpiece. A masterpiece that was not meant to be. Melee was a beautiful accident. It was a rushed game that translated into a very complex, deep execution heavy fighting game full of complex hidden techniques. 20 years after its release, people were still coming up with new techniques.
          
          Melee is not a fighting game, it's simply the best figthing game ever created by man. No human could have intentionally created that masterpiece. That's why it had to be an accident. A gift from the gods.
          
          Melee should not he called a fighting game like those other games. Melee should be set apart. Just like Gods set themselves apart from mortals
          

          Jmook

            Jmook
            If JMook grabs me✊, I'm not mashing out🎮 I'm leaning in💋 
            Who is Jmook? For the blind 😎, it is Jlight 💡🔌. For the hungry 🍆, it is Jbread 🍞. For the sick 😷, it is the Jcure 🚫😃🤓. For the sad 😭, it is Jjoy 😂. For the poor, it is the Jtreasure 💰⛏; for the debtor ✔❎💵, it is Jforgiveness 👭 
            You think another Sheik is better than JMook? You're going to get Jake DiRatio'd 
            Jmook is so cool and hot and his sheik is really good. If i was running an esports organziation. I'd love to have him representing it. Sadly, I don't have one so i will follow him on twitch at jmook11 
            if my girl 😍 and Jmook both drowning 😱 and I can only save one 😤 😬 Catch me at my girl's funeral 😝 with the best posture in the game 
            JMook isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such an ability and movement with Sheik? JMook puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. mang0 breaks records. Zain breaks records. JMook breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer JMook. 
            I went to Genesis 8 and ran into jmook on day 2. I told him I was his biggest fan and that I love his sheik, he told me he knows. When i asked him for advice he gently grabbed my back and pulled it up and said "stand like this" and walked away. To this day I haven't slouched once 
            No one is going to believe me, but have a friend whose brother's coworker briefly dated Jmook. She said that on their first date they went to a restaurant and Jmook ordered two different bowls of soup and mixed them together one spoonful at a time before eating both bowls mixed together as one soup 
            If JMook has a million fans, then I am one of them. If JMook has ten fans, then I am one of them. If JMook has only one fan then that is me. If JMook has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against JMook, then I am against the world. 
            i think its hilarious u guys talk shit about jmook., hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol. 
            damn this jmook kid is so young talented and attractive, i would definitely want him representing my brand and/or my esports org and would DEFINITELY dm him if i represented one of the aforementioned orgs or follow him on twitch at jmook11 
            if jmook got scared he'd be jshook. if jmook was a chef he'd be jcook. if jmook played you in melee, he'd read you like jbook. if jmook made music, he'd add jhook. if jmook played you in chess, he'd beat you with jrook. if jmook was asked to see something, he'd be sure to jlook. if jmook needed to hide, he'd be in jnook. If he was a thief he'd be Jcrook. 
            I went to a New York local, when I saw Jmook jaywalking across the street. An officer confronted him and after a long chat he took the officer's pad, wrote in it, and walked away. I talked to the officer and he told me through tears that Jmook gave him a ticket for a bad posture. 
            jmook’s hair is soft like blanket and everyone wants to take a touch on it. Him eyes shining like marble and is attract every human bean. 
            Overheard by the commentators couch after Game 5: “He got me,” Leffen said of Jmook's backthrow on him. "That f***ing Jmook boomed me." Leffen added, “My controller sucks” repeating it four times. Leffen then said he wanted to add Jmook to the list of players he plays friendlies with this summer. 
            Sadly this is long overdue. My friend is an executive at BTS and said that Jmook caused constant trouble every time he showed up. There was apparently an incident where a custodian found Jmook arguing with a man in a wheelchair in the bathroom. Jmook was adamantly claiming he needed the handicap stall because of how big his balls are, and the man in the wheelchair was on the verge of tears and covered in shit. The custodian had to calm things down and push Leffen to a different bathroom. 
            A lot of Melee players left Summit practice today energized by JMook's performance, mesmerized with him taking low-tier characters and running the table on the regulars, sources said. At the end, he marched out like if a mic drop. JMook delivered a tour de force.